Langstone level crossing circa 1900-1914 from the Roger Nash collection.

The crossing that was never authorised but remained in use until the line closed in 1963. The station can be seen behind the gates and the crossing keeper’s hut is to the right. The tall signal in the background is the station starter for Havant with a distance signal below it. The other signal arm is the inner home from the havant direction. This arrangement of having one signal post with arms for both directions was quite common at the time. It saved considerable cost over mounting signals on separate posts, I wonder who this staff member operating the gates is? Anyone know? Photo, courtesy of Roger Nash (Grandson of Samuel Walder. See article.)

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  • Huttonmodeller 26 November, 2012, 12:33 pm

    Hi Peter,

    I’m no expert on railway signals, but have you got the account of the further signal correct in the text above?

    As I see the photo, there are three ‘arms’ on the signal post. Two are pointing left and one is pointing ‘right’. I would suggest that the two facing left are the ‘home’ signal (the top one that would have been painted red) and the lower one, the ‘distant’ signal (painted yellow – possibly with a ‘fishtail’) for the Hayling Island direction.

    Wouldn’t therefore, the single signal pointing ‘right’ be the signal for the Havant direction? Or am I completely misreading the situation?

    Best Wishes,

    Robin

  • Hayling Billy 50 26 November, 2012, 3:03 pm

    Hi Robin,

    Langston station platform can be seen behind the crossing gate. The station was on the Havant side of the crossing.

    The signal was therefore located in the Havant direction. Your description of the arms and colours is correct.

  • Waldgrun 28 November, 2012, 1:11 pm

    Peter Langston Station was on the Hayling side of the crossing, and on the western side of what is now the main A 3023 road!

  • Waldgrun 28 November, 2012, 1:30 pm

    Robin,

    You are right in the location/direction of the signal arms. However have a close look at the lower signal arm It has no fishtail notch and the colouring seems to be the same as the upper arm! It is likely to be a distant warning signal, because the yellow and black, with fish tail cut out design, evolved over a 50 plus year period from the 1870’s to the 1920’s The picture falls within that time frame, and the Hayling branch wasn’t known for being at the forefront of developments! The signal for the Hayling direction controlled traffic at the Langston, and provide warning on the state of the signal near the Bridge and the sidings on the eastern side of the Line.

    You will notice another signal post between the Crossing Gates and the Keppers Box, I would suggest that the arm for Havant bound trains was a distant for this signal. Or, it might have been an outer home used to bring trains to a stop before entering the station, to ensure that they where under control and not likely to smash through the gates!

  • peterd 29 November, 2012, 2:18 am

    Oops! For some reason I believed the station was on the other side of the crossing but, having checked I find you are right. Apologies to Robin.

    Peter

  • peterd 3 December, 2012, 9:50 am

    I have cropped the image of the signal to clarify the lower arm detail.

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    The signal is a classic LB&SCR structure and the lower arm has the fish tail, The signal arm is painted red with a white chevron. It also is a lower quadrant signal in keeping with the time. This style of distant signal was still in use in some locations on the LB&SCR, at least up to the grouping period (1923).

  • Waldgrun 3 December, 2012, 9:05 pm

    Peter thanks for the cropped picture.

    Computors are wonderful things, the screen on my system renders the stripe on the lower signal arm as straight, most likely the display resolution.

  • peterd 4 December, 2012, 12:41 am

    To be honest, I get the same impression as you when looking at the original photo on here. That’s why I had to crop the original scan. .